Noam Chomsky:The Arab Spring Three Years On لقاء مع نعوم تشومسكي حول الربيع العربي
Noam Chomsky |
The Arab
Spring Three Years On
28/11/2013
by Noam Chomsky
Three years since the
start of the Arab revolutions, the region has witnessed a kaleidoscope of
dramatic developments ranging from free elections to the violent suppression of
change. How would you describe the Arab Spring today?
In the past I’ve described it as a
“work in progress.” Now, regrettably, the phrase “work in regress” would be
more appropriate. The oil dictatorships have been able to repress most efforts
at even mild reform, Syria is hurtling to suicide and likely partition, Yemen
is subjected to Obama’s global drone terror campaign, Tunisia is in a kind of
limbo, Libya lacks a government that can control the militias, and in Egypt,
the major country of the Arab world, the military have acted with extreme
brutality – and popular support that they should not have in my opinion – in
what seems to be an effort to restore their harsh political control and
maintain their economic empire, while reversing some of the most significant
gains of the earlier period, such as press freedom and independence. The signs
do not look good.
In addition, the Sunni-Shi’i conflict
instigated by US-UK aggression in Iraq is tearing the country to shreds and
spreading ominously over the whole region. There are two parts of the Arab
world that remain effectively colonies: Western Sahara, where the democracy
demonstrations of late 2010 were harshly repressed and the struggle of Sahrawis
for freedom has been almost forgotten, and of course Palestine, where
negotiations are underway conforming to the two essential US-Israeli
preconditions: that there be no barrier to expansion of the illegal
settlements, and that the negotiations be run by the US, which is a participant
in the conflict (on the side of Israel) and has been blocking the overwhelming
international consensus on a diplomatic settlement since 1976, when it vetoed a
Security Council resolution calling for its basic terms, with rare and
temporary exceptions.
Under those preconditions,
negotiations are likely to be hardly more than a cover for Israel to carry
forward its programs of integrating into Israel what it regards as valuable in
the West Bank, including few Arabs so as to avoid the “demographic problem,”
with continuing US support, and to separate the West Bank from Gaza in
violation of the Oslo Accords, while maintaining the brutal siege. Not a bright
moment, but the sparks lit by the Arab spring are likely to burst into flames
again.
Initial hopes for a
linear trajectory towards empowerment and democracy have long disappeared. Was
the euphoria misplaced? Where and when did things go wrong?
There never should have been hopes
for a linear trajectory. The Arab Spring was a development of historic
importance, threatening many powerful interests. Power does not say “thank you
for dismantling us,” then walking quietly away.
Western reactions have
ranged from military intervention to a hands-off approach as seen in the Gulf
States. Do you see an underlying pattern here?
The underlying pattern is familiar:
support your favorite dictator as long as possible. If it becomes impossible
because the military or business classes turn against him or for some other
reason, then send him off somewhere, issue ringing declarations about your love
of democracy, and try to restore the old order as fully as possible. It happens
over and over. To mention just a few: Somoza, Marcos, Duvalier, Suharto,
Mobutu,…
It’s a natural policy for an imperial
power, hence completely familiar. It’s also natural for the picture to be
ignored or suppressed. The task of the intellectual community is to support
power and justify it, not undermine it – though some break the rules.
One of several regional
fault lines seems to be the clash between secular and religious forces. Do you
see a way this dichotomy can be dealt with constructively? What role should
Western governments play?
Neither history, nor logic, nor
policy analysis, nor any other source apart from propaganda gives us any reason
to expect power systems to play a constructive role, unless it happens to be in
their interest. That’s true of western systems, as a special case. In the MENA
region, the major powers – Britain, then the US – have fairly consistently
supported radical Islam as a counter to secular nationalism. The favorite has
been Saudi Arabia, the most extreme radical Islamist state, and a missionary
state, spreading its Wahabbist-Salafist doctrines throughout the region.
There are excellent and careful
scholarly studies of US “democracy promotion” by their most prominent
advocates, who concede, reluctantly, that the government supports democracy if
and only if it conforms to economic and strategic interests – just as any
rational person would expect.
What role should they play? That’s
easy. They should support freedom, justice, human rights, Democracy. We can say
the same about Russia and China. To some extent organized popular forces can
impel governments in this direction, but there is little sign of that today,
for many reasons.
On another level,
tensions between religious denominations appear to be on the rise. Already in
2004, Jordan’s King Abdullah spoke of a “Shia Crescent”. Is this notion of a
Sunni-Shia proxy war the appropriate lens for understanding current conflicts
in the region?
One of the grim consequences of US-UK
aggression in Iraq was igniting Sunni-Shia conflicts that had been subdued
previously, leading to a horror story that is tearing Iraq apart and has spread
over the region, with awful and ominous effects.
And honesty would impel us to recall
the judgment of Nuremberg, one of the foundations of modern international law.
Aggression was determined to be “the supreme international crime differing only
from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of
the whole” – in this case, including the sectarian conflicts among many other
crimes. Honesty would also impel us to recall the injunction that Justice
Robert Jackson delivered to the Tribunal: we are handing these defendants a
“poisoned chalice,” and if we carry out similar crimes we must suffer the same
consequences, or else this Tribunal is a farce, merely victor’s justice. One
measure of the gap between Western moral-intellectual culture and civilization
is how well these words have been heeded.
This interview was first published in German on IPG-Journal. The
questions were asked by Michael Bröning.
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